Dealing With Doctors Expand The ISG Medical Advisory Board receives many different questions and comments from members. Some are factual questions about diagnosis or treatment, but a lot are about doctors. Many people with ichthyosis find visits to the doctor unsatisfactory unhelpful, bewildering, exasperating, even humiliating. Some issues are about GPs (“Primary care doctors”) and some about dermatologists (“secondary care doctors”). Here is a selection of complaints, and some suggestions about how to deal with them. “My GP doesn't know anything about ichthyosis” Ichthyosis is a rare condition. Most GPs have heard about it at medical school but have never seen a case. In the general medical textbooks, ichthyosis hardly gets a mention. GPs have to know about all medical conditions, particularly how to diagnose and manage common and serious disorders, so don't expect them to know all the “small print”. But do expect them to acknowledge their ignorance, and to be prepared to refer you to a specialist (dermatologist). “My GP says it's incurable and I've just got to live with it” Incurable is not the same as untreatable. The suffering caused by ichthyosis can be alleviated to some extent by correct treatment and advice. Many patients find that learning about their condition is empowering and even therapeutic. Explain to your doctor that you are not seeking a cure, but you want the benefit of up-to-date advice, not only about creams and ointments, but also about related health and lifestyle issues. “My GP won't refer me to a specialist” Some GPs have a very low threshold for referral to hospital, and send even the most trivial conditions for a second opinion. Others, often very good GPs, pride themselves on their low referral rate. They may even have read up about ichthyosis and decided that there is nothing you would get from hospital that your GP cannot provide. In modern NHS jargon, the GP is a “purchaser” and the hospital a “provider”. Your GP may be constrained by rules about referrals to “secondary care” (i.e. hospital) set by the Primary Care Trust (PCT) which commissions purchasing by your GP practice. Just remind your GP that “patient choice” is an important concept in the modern NHS, and you are entitled to request a second opinion. “I saw a dermatologist years ago, so my GP says there's no point referring me back to hospital” Some dermatologists keep patients with ichthyosis on the books, and follow them up annually. Others will follow up patients as long as both the specialist and the patient feel it is useful, but discharge as soon as the appointment begins to feel like a waste of time. But most dermatologists will invite the GP to refer you back if necessary. Explain to your GP that there has been a lot of recent research into ichthyosis, and you would like to be referred back for an update. “My dermatologist doesn't know anything about ichthyosis” This is a tricky one! Your dermatologist should know about ichthyosis, but some know more than others, and some are more interested in ichthyosis than others. Dermatology is not as broad as general practice, but even within this specialty there are many subspecialties, of which “the genodermatoses” (which covers ichthyosis) is only one. Your GP may, unknowingly, have referred you to a dermatologist whose particular area of expertise is occupational dermatitis or skin cancer, or to a very busy general dermatologist who has not had the opportunity to develop a specialist interest. In that case the dermatologist will usually seek advice or refer you on to a colleague with an interest in ichthyosis. Again, you are entitled to request a second opinion. The ISG Medical Advisory Board may be able to suggest a dermatologist in your area to whom you can request a referral. “I never get to see the consultant” In most clinics, the work is shared out between the consultant and junior doctors. Specialist Registrars (SpRs) are consultants in training: in some cases their knowledge may be more up to date than the consultant's! Associate Specialists and Clinical Assistants are usually GPs with a special interest in dermatology who work alongside the consultant for part of the week. They are generally very experienced. Senior House Officers are the most junior. Usually the junior doctor will discuss your case with the consultant. Certainly if you have a question they cannot answer you should ask to be see the consultant. If you particularly want to see the consultant and never do, speak to the receptionist or clinic nurse as soon as you arrive. If this doesn't work, write a letter directly to your consultant. “My dermatologist doesn't listen to me” Sometimes patients leave the consultation feeling dissatisfied. You may feel that the dermatologist doesn't understand what you are suffering, or has not helped you, or that you simply didn't “hit it off”. I hope this is not the case with my patients, but if it is I really want to know. In the past, no-one felt able to challenge consultants who were difficult, unhelpful or downright rude. In the modern NHS such behaviour is not tolerated: consultants are appraised annually and complaints are aired and dealt with. If you are unhappy about the way you have been treated, put down your thoughts on paper and write a letter directly to your consultant. If necessary contact your hospital's Patient Advice and Liaison Service (see below). You should also discuss the problem with your GP. “I hate going to hospital because I am made to feel like a freak” The doctor may ask other people to examine your skin for various reasons. Sometime this is for your benefit, the consultant may be seeking opinions and advice from colleagues. Sometimes it is for educational purposes, the consultant has a duty to teach junior doctors and medical students. But I know that patients find this experience embarrassing and humiliating. Even well-meant sympathetic comments may feel hurtful. Children probably suffer most because they are least able to understand the reasons and express their views. Sadly, many patients feel psychologically scarred by the regular mortifying ordeal of stripping off and exposing their skin to a roomful of strangers. How can I make this better for you? First of all, if your doctor seems insensitive to the way you or your child feels, please tell him or her we really do need this feedback from you. Either explain before the examination takes place that you find it embarrassing, or write a letter afterwards and ask for it to be placed in your file. The doctor should always ask permission, even of a child, to carry out an examination. It is perfectly acceptable to say that you prefer to be examined only by one doctor. Secondly, make sure there is a reason for getting undressed, and if necessary ask what it is. Usually it is to judge the effect of treatment, or to look at particularly troublesome areas. If your condition is stable, and the medication has not been changed, your doctor may still need to remind him or herself of what your skin is like. But if there is no good reason, feel free to decline. Thirdly, I hope you will agree that we want as many doctors to know as much as possible about ichthyosis. So it might help if you can see the experience as your personal contribution to medical education. If you are somebody who feels embarrassed about your skin, take the opportunity to explain this, and how it affects your life. You are the expert. Learning from a real patient is much more effective than learning from a text-book. “At the hospital I always have to wait for hours” Complaints about the hospital service don't usually come to the ISG, but I know everybody has them. Dermatology outpatient clinics are usually very busy, often overbooked, and sometimes frankly disorganised. Appointments may be changed more than once, and your records may even be unavailable when you come to clinic. These organisational problems irritate the doctors just as much as the patients. We do our best to prevent them but most are beyond our control. But please do voice your opinion. Most hospitals have a Patient Advice and Liaison Service (PALS) who will encourage you to submit a complaint. They should make public the complaints received and their response. If you are interested, key “PALS” and your hospital name into an internet search engine. The bottom line is, if you are unhappy about something, say so. Nothing will change if you don't. Consultants really do want to help you, and need to know if you are unhappy with the service. You may find writing a letter easier and more effective: always keep a copy in case you need to take things further. Patient choice and patient satisfaction are higher on the NHS agenda than ever before. Finally, remember that your Medical Advisory Board is here to help. Keep sending us your questions and concerns, and we will do our best to advise you. Written by Dr Celia Moss, DM,FRCP,MRCPCH, Consultant Dermatologist, Birmingham Children’s Hospital, Member of ISG Medical Advisory Board Download The Dealing With Doctors Factsheet To find out more about the ISG or become a member please get in touch in one of the following ways: By Phone 0845 602 9202 By Email: [email protected] Facebook: facebook.com/ichthyosissupportgroup Twitter: twitter.com/ISG_Charity
Why People With Ichthyosis Should See a Consultant Dermatologist Expand Many ichthyosis sufferers first contact the ISG after an appointment with a doctor. Sometimes the doctor has put the family in touch with the ISG. But all too often the patient finds the ISG for themselves, searching for the help they need after a disappointing consultation. This article is about getting the best from the NHS. GPs know of ichthyosis, but don’t usually know much about it or the different types. They may even misdiagnose it as eczema which is much more common. They usually prescribe emollients, sometimes not the best ones, or enough. But they are after all general practitioners who need to know about all the common and serious conditions in all organs, not just the skin. The health professional who does know about ichthyosis is the dermatology consultant or “skin specialist”. Dermatologists, like GPs, spend 5-6 years as medical students, followed by 2 “Foundation Years” in a variety of hospital departments: these posts, FY1 and FY2, were previously called Houseman and Senior House Officer. After FY2 , doctors follow different career paths. Future dermatologists will undertake 2 years (ST1-2) of specialist training in hospital medicine, during which they must pass the examination for Membership of the Royal College of Physicians (MRCP). Then these “Registrars” compete for a 4 year training programme in dermatology (years ST3-6) during which they undergo numerous assessments, including a written exam, which they have to pass in order to proceed to the next stage. They all learn about different types of ichthyosis and how to diagnose and treat them. Some may take time out to undertake a research project or a specialist Fellowship. Finally, in their early to mid 30s, they compete for hospital consultant posts. Training doesn’t end there: consultants must attend regular educational sessions to keep up to date in their field, and are appraised annually. GPs can refer patients to a consultant dermatologist, but often choose not to. GPs have to purchase hospital appointments and it is cheaper not to refer, especially chronic conditions like ichthyosis which may require long-term follow-up. The GP may not understand the value of consulting a doctor who regularly sees people with ichthyosis, and who keeps up to date in the field, and can advise authoritatively about your particular case. Many dermatologists work with specialist nurses who give valuable support to sufferers. GPs cannot prescribe retinoid drugs which are sometimes used for ichthyosis. You are entitled to see a specialist, and If necessary you should insist on being referred. Of course some dermatologists know more about ichthyosis than others. An expert in skin cancer or psoriasis might not be the right person for you. Your dermatologist may refer you to a colleague with more expertise, and you can request that. If it is awkward to ask your dermatologist, your GP may agree to refer you elsewhere for a second opinion. If you need the name of a dermatologist who knows more about ichthyosis the ISG may be able to advise. The ISG is actively working for a national network of ichthyosis specialists to make it easier for everyone with ichthyosis to access the help they deserve. practice, but even within this specialty there are many subspecialties, of which “the genodermatoses” (which covers ichthyosis) is only one. Your GP may, unknowingly, have referred you to a dermatologist whose particular area of expertise is occupational dermatitis or skin cancer, or to a very busy general dermatologist who has not had the opportunity to develop a specialist interest. In that case the dermatologist will usually seek advice or refer you on to a colleague with an interest in ichthyosis. Again, you are entitled to request a second opinion. The ISG Medical Advisory Board may be able to suggest a dermatologist in your area to whom you can request a referral. “I never get to see the consultant” In most clinics, the work is shared out between the consultant and junior doctors. Specialist Registrars (SpRs) are consultants in training: in some cases their knowledge may be more up to date than the consultant's! Associate Specialists and Clinical Assistants are usually GPs with a special interest in dermatology who work alongside the consultant for part of the week. They are generally very experienced. Senior House Officers are the most junior. Usually the junior doctor will discuss your case with the consultant. Certainly if you have a question they cannot answer you should ask to be see the consultant. If you particularly want to see the consultant and never do, speak to the receptionist or clinic nurse as soon as you arrive. If this doesn't work, write a letter directly to your consultant. “My dermatologist doesn't listen to me” Sometimes patients leave the consultation feeling dissatisfied. You may feel that the dermatologist doesn't understand what you are suffering, or has not helped you, or that you simply didn't “hit it off”. I hope this is not the case with my patients, but if it is I really want to know. In the past, no-one felt able to challenge consultants who were difficult, unhelpful or downright rude. In the modern NHS such behaviour is not tolerated: consultants are appraised annually and complaints are aired and dealt with. If you are unhappy about the way you have been treated, put down your thoughts on paper and write a letter directly to your consultant. If necessary contact your hospital's Patient Advice and Liaison Service (see below). You should also discuss the problem with your GP. “I hate going to hospital because I am made to feel like a freak” The doctor may ask other people to examine your skin for various reasons. Sometime this is for your benefit, the consultant may be seeking opinions and advice from colleagues. Sometimes it is for educational purposes, the consultant has a duty to teach junior doctors and medical students. But I know that patients find this experience embarrassing and humiliating. Even well-meant sympathetic comments may feel hurtful. Children probably suffer most because they are least able to understand the reasons and express their views. Sadly, many patients feel psychologically scarred by the regular mortifying ordeal of stripping off and exposing their skin to a roomful of strangers. How can I make this better for you? First of all, if your doctor seems insensitive to the way you or your child feels, please tell him or her we really do need this feedback from you. Either explain before the examination takes place that you find it embarrassing, or write a letter afterwards and ask for it to be placed in your file. The doctor should always ask permission, even of a child, to carry out an examination. It is perfectly acceptable to say that you prefer to be examined only by one doctor. Secondly, make sure there is a reason for getting undressed, and if necessary ask what it is. Usually it is to judge the effect of treatment, or to look at particularly troublesome areas. If your condition is stable, and the medication has not been changed, your doctor may still need to remind him or herself of what your skin is like. But if there is no good reason, feel free to decline. Thirdly, I hope you will agree that we want as many doctors to know as much as possible about ichthyosis. So it might help if you can see the experience as your personal contribution to medical education. If you are somebody who feels embarrassed about your skin, take the opportunity to explain this, and how it affects your life. You are the expert. Learning from a real patient is much more effective than learning from a text-book. “At the hospital I always have to wait for hours” Complaints about the hospital service don't usually come to the ISG, but I know everybody has them. Dermatology outpatient clinics are usually very busy, often overbooked, and sometimes frankly disorganised. Appointments may be changed more than once, and your records may even be unavailable when you come to clinic. These organisational problems irritate the doctors just as much as the patients. We do our best to prevent them but most are beyond our control. But please do voice your opinion. Most hospitals have a Patient Advice and Liaison Service (PALS) who will encourage you to submit a complaint. They should make public the complaints received and their response. If you are interested, key “PALS” and your hospital name into an internet search engine. The bottom line is, if you are unhappy about something, say so. Nothing will change if you don't. Consultants really do want to help you, and need to know if you are unhappy with the service. You may find writing a letter easier and more effective: always keep a copy in case you need to take things further. Patient choice and patient satisfaction are higher on the NHS agenda than ever before. Finally, remember that your Medical Advisory Board is here to help. Keep sending us your questions and concerns, and we will do our best to advise you. Written by Dr Celia Moss, DM,FRCP,MRCPCH, Consultant Dermatologist, Birmingham Children’s Hospital, Member of ISG Medical Advisory Board Download The Why People With Ichthyosis Should See a Consultant Dermatologist Factsheet To find out more about the ISG or become a member please get in touch in one of the following ways: By Phone 0800 368 9621 By Email: [email protected] Facebook: facebook.com/ichthyosissupportgroup Twitter: twitter.com/ISG_Charity
Questions to Ask at Doctors & Hospital Appointments Expand Before you leave your appointment make sure you know the following: What might be wrong? You could ask the following questions: ● Can I check that I’ve understood what you said? What you’re saying is… ● Can you explain it again? I still don’t understand. ● Can I have a copy of any letters written about me? What about any further tests, such as blood tests, scans and so on? ● What are the tests for? ● How and when will I get the results? ● Who do I contact if I don’t get the results? About what treatment, if any, is best for you ● Are there other ways to treat my condition? ● What do you recommend? ● Are there any side effects or risks? ● How long will I need treatment for? ● How will I know if the treatment is working? ● How effective is this treatment? ● What will happen if I don’t have any treatment? ● Is there anything I should stop or avoid doing? ● Is there anything else I can do to help myself? What happens next and who to contact ●What happens next? Do I come back and see you? ● Who do I contact if things get worse? ● Do you have any written information? ● Where can I go for more information, a support group or more help? Top tips Before your appointment ● Write down your two or three most important questions. ● List or bring all your medicines and pills – including vitamins and supplements. ● Write down details of your symptoms, including when they started and what makes them better or worse. ● Ask your hospital or surgery for an interpreter or communication support if needed. ● Ask a friend or family member to come with you, if you like. During your appointment ● Don’t be afraid to ask if you don’t understand. For example, ‘Can you say that again? I still don’t understand.’ ● If you don’t understand any words, ask for them to be written down and explained. ● Write things down, or ask a family member or friend to take notes. Before you leave your appointment ● Check that: – you’ve covered everything on your list – you understand, for example ‘Can I just check I understood what you said?’ – you know what should happen next – and when. Write it down. ● Ask: – who to contact if you have any more problems or questions – about support groups and where to go for reliable information, and – for copies of letters written about you – you are entitled to see these. After your appointment, don’t forget the following ● Write down what you discussed and what happens next. Keep your notes. ● Book any tests that you can and put the dates in your diary. ● Ask: – ‘what’s happening if I’m not sent my appointment details,’ and – ‘can I have the results of any tests?’ (If you don’t get the results when you expect – ask for them.) Ask what the results mean. Download The Questions to Ask at Doctors & Hospital Appointments Factsheet To find out more about the ISG or become a member please get in touch in one of the following ways: By Phone 0800 368 9621 By Email: [email protected] Facebook: facebook.com/ichthyosissupportgroup Twitter: twitter.com/ISG_Charity
Letter to GP re Prescribing of Emollients and Prescribed Skin Care Treatments Our Medical Advisory Board have provided a letter for you to download and take to your GP regarding emollient prescribing. Expand We are aware that some patients with ichthyosis are experiencing difficulties with their GP reducing, or stopping prescriptions of emollients including bath and shower products. For some members this also extends to some silk garments. Our Medical Advisory Board have written letters that you may print off and take to your GP asking them to prescribe the items you need to care for your ichthyosis. You can access these letters via the links below. Download The Letter to GP re emollient prescribing Download The Letter to GP re emollient and silk garment prescribing If you continue to have difficulties obtaining your prescribed skin care products via your GP please contact us either by telephone on 0800 3689621 or by email [email protected] To find out more about the ISG or become a member please get in touch in one of the following ways: By Phone 0800 368 9621 By Email: [email protected] Facebook: facebook.com/ichthyosissupportgroup Twitter: twitter.com/ISG_Charity
Prescribing issues - NHS England Some people with ichthyosis are experiencing problems obtaining cream, lotions and/or clothing garments on prescription from their GP. This letter from NHS England provides clarification for patients and GPs. Download it and give to your GP. Expand Some people with ichthyosis are experiencing problems obtaining cream, lotions and/or clothing garments on prescription from their GP. Some of these issues are as a result of guidelines issued by NHS England being misinterpreted by your local Clinical Commissioning Group (clinically-led statutory NHS bodies responsible for the planning and commissioning of health care services in your local area/GP). The British Association for Dermatologists (BAD) www.bad.org.uk and the Dermatology Council for England (DCE) www.dermatologyengland.org.uk have been working with NHS England (NHSE) www.england.nhs.uk for over a year now to publish clarification on the guidance they have issued. Whilst they are very close to finalising this guidance NHSE have in the interim issued a letter which clarifies the intent of the guidance which is intended to help patients and prescribers to access the treatments that are needed. Download the template letter You may also like to refer to a letter from our Medical Advisory Board which supports patients with ichthyosis eligibility for prescribed emollients. Download letter